2016 East coast nationals Watkins Glen

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Postby jim » Wed Sep 23, 2015 6:03 pm

The Glen is a must do track, did it in 2014, its a cross between Mid-O and RA. ( have yet to go to VIR ) Elevation changes are challenging and better know your braking zones too, excellent brakes are a must. Its a high RPM track. Well worth the drive, beautiful area to bring and explore with your significant other, after the race that is.

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Watkins Glen 2014

Postby dejf5 » Fri Sep 25, 2015 8:43 am

And Jim got a win at his first trip to Watkins Glen in Sept 2014. Spencer Black is the CMC man to beat at Watkins Glen and turned laps in the upper 2:17's last year. On my 2nd day there, I ran a 2:18.3 with the 5.0 motor, 3:55 rear gears and the road race 5th gear in a T-5 transmission. The AIM solo indicated 129.5 mph as top speed just before bus stop which surprised me .......I thought the front straight would be faster mph's. What a fun track with wide open area into turn one and flat out up through to the bus stop...the predictive timer kept saying that I was getting faster & better in the first half of the track and giving it all back on the 2nd half. I hope I can go again next year!
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Re: Watkins Glen 2014

Postby BADVENM » Fri Sep 25, 2015 9:38 am

dejf5 wrote:And Jim got a win at his first trip to Watkins Glen in Sept 2014. Spencer Black is the CMC man to beat at Watkins Glen and turned laps in the upper 2:17's last year. On my 2nd day there, I ran a 2:18.3 with the 5.0 motor, 3:55 rear gears and the road race 5th gear in a T-5 transmission. The AIM solo indicated 129.5 mph as top speed just before bus stop which surprised me .......I thought the front straight would be faster mph's. What a fun track with wide open area into turn one and flat out up through to the bus stop...the predictive timer kept saying that I was getting faster & better in the first half of the track and giving it all back on the 2nd half. I hope I can go again next year!
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Thanks for the info David. I'm also running 3:55 gears with a road racing 5th. Our AIM on a few tracks has us up to 120 mph, didn't check the tach to see how much room we had left before hitting rev limiter at those speeds. We may have another chance to hit those speeds in a few weeks and I'll check the tach.
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Re: Watkins Glen 2014

Postby MHISSTC » Sat Sep 26, 2015 5:27 pm

BADVENM wrote:I'm also running 3:55 gears with a road racing 5th.


You need to verify your rear gears. I thought the 3.55 set was the one I messed up and replaced with the 3.73 set. Either that or I gave you my 3.55 set and I have the 3.73 now. I can't remember any more.
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Postby Sidney » Tue Sep 29, 2015 9:41 am

Sidney wrote:
BADVENM wrote:Anyone run that track before in CMC?


In CMC1 tune...I was hitting over 145 mph on the back before the bus stop. First turn was in 4th with a short shift to 5th before turn 2 and WOT all the way up thru the S's....

Sidney


I used a formula to get MPH based on RPM, axle ratio, gear ratio, and tire radius. I had a .82 TKO, ran 3.73 rear gears, and 255/16 Toyos. RPM was between 5,000 and 5,500.

Just did a google search and found 2 different diameters for 255/16's. Tire Rack lists the 255/16 RA1 at 26.1 inches. Using that size the calculations would be 132 mph at 5,200 and 137 at 5,400. Another Website had 255/16 at 29 inches...that would give the 145 MPH top speed. The 132/137 probably makes more sense for the sub 250HP I was making at the time.

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Re: 2016 East coast nationals Watkins Glen

Postby BADVENM » Mon Mar 14, 2016 5:40 pm

Just curious where you guys and gals are at regarding attending the East Coast Nationals. My teammate and I have to have our vacation request forms in by the end of the month. We're planning on competing and hope that there will be at least 3 more cars to fulfill the 4 car requirement for an east coast CMC championship race.

So, can any of you give an update regarding whether or not you'll be competing?

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Re: 2016 East coast nationals Watkins Glen

Postby Spencer » Tue Mar 15, 2016 5:56 am

I plan on being there

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Re: 2016 East coast nationals Watkins Glen

Postby blk96gt » Tue Mar 15, 2016 7:18 am

Spencer,

Have you driven Watkins before with your car? If so, what gearing do you have and do you have to shift to 5th at all?

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Re: 2016 East coast nationals Watkins Glen

Postby Spencer » Tue Mar 15, 2016 9:29 am

I have stock gears in the car 3.27s, I do not shift into 5th anywhere on the track.

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Re: 2016 East coast nationals Watkins Glen

Postby t500hps » Tue Mar 15, 2016 5:49 pm

I plan on being there and at least one other mid atlantic guy says he's going too.....hopefully getting 3-5 guys to come.

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Re: 2016 East coast nationals Watkins Glen

Postby BADVENM » Tue Mar 15, 2016 6:41 pm

Sounds like we'll have enough cars for a championship race :P
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Re: 2016 East coast nationals Watkins Glen

Postby Supercharged111 » Tue Mar 22, 2016 4:21 pm

Are there any CMC videos of the Glen? I'm striking out on Youtube and Vimeo.
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Re: 2016 East coast nationals Watkins Glen

Postby Den34 » Wed Mar 23, 2016 5:36 am

I know of three for sure out of the Midwest/ Great lakes.
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Re: 2016 East coast nationals Watkins Glen

Postby Al Fernandez » Mon Apr 11, 2016 9:43 am

I know I wont be able to take my car, but its still possible I'll be there. That wont help car count :lol:
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Re: 2016 East coast nationals Watkins Glen

Postby BADVENM » Thu Apr 14, 2016 9:24 pm

Supercharged111 wrote:Are there any CMC videos of the Glen? I'm striking out on Youtube and Vimeo.


Only one I've found https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BPER52NG4ZQ
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